Dec. 12, 2025

From Myths to Millions: The Truth About Angel Investing with Karen Rands

From Myths to Millions: The Truth About Angel Investing with Karen Rands

Most people think angel investing is risky and only for the ultra-wealthy, but the real myth is believing you can’t build wealth backing the right entrepreneurs. Karen Rands clears the confusion, showing how everyday people can move from misconceptions to meaningful wealth creation.

Drawing from decades of experience, she reveals the myths that hold people back, the hidden risks in traditional investing, and why private companies often deliver more predictable long-term value than stocks or rental properties. She shares stories and explains how angel investing can provide short-term returns, ongoing income, and long-term “big wins.”

Karen also introduces her Angel Profitability Blueprint and Wealth Maximizer System, guiding investors to evaluate deals, manage risk, and build a diversified portfolio of 10+ high-potential companies, even with modest capital.

If you’ve wondered whether angel investing is “too risky” or “only for the wealthy,” this conversation shows how the right strategy can turn myths into millions.


Takeaways

  • Angel investing is a viable asset class for wealth building.

  • The Jobs Act of 2012 opened doors for non-millionaires to invest.

  • Investing in entrepreneurs can yield higher returns than traditional investments.

  • Education is crucial for understanding angel investing.

  • Many successful business owners overlook angel investing opportunities.

  • Angel investing can be emotionally rewarding and impactful.

  • Diversification is key to managing risks in angel investing.

  • The perception of angel investing as risky is often based on myths.

  • Community impact is a significant benefit of angel investing.

  • The compassionate capitalist movement aims to educate and empower new investors.


Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Angel Investing and Myths

02:32 The Impact of the Jobs Act on Angel Investing

05:48 The Compassionate Capitalist Wealth Maximizing System

08:36 Understanding the Profitability of Angel Investing

11:22 The Historical Context of Angel Investing

13:57 The Barriers to Angel Investing Awareness

17:09 Real Stories: The Value of Investing in Entrepreneurs

19:55 The Emotional Aspect of Investing

22:52 The Disconnect in Financial Advisory

25:26 The Comparison with Cryptocurrency and Market Trends

32:41 The Volatility of Cryptocurrency

38:02 Understanding Angel Investing

42:35 The Risks and Rewards of Entrepreneurship

47:38 Real Estate vs. Entrepreneurial Investments

54:25 The Future of Investing in Startups

About Karen Rands

Karen Rands is the founder of The Compassionate Capitalist Movement - bringing to the entrepreneur / investor ecosystem a new generation of 'Compassionalists™" so entrepreneurs have more available capital and people previously shut out of the millionaire wealth creation strategies can build wealth by investing in entrepreneurs for purpose, passion and profit and share in their success without all the risk of being the entrepreneur.

Get the Book that launched a movement: Inside Secrets to Angel Investing: Step-by-Step Strategies to Leverage Private Equity Investment for Passive Wealth Creation

Grab the book that is disrupting the status quo and inspiring a new generation that they have it in their power to leap the wealth gap: Inside Secrets to Crowdfund Investing. Follow Jane’s Journey: See How a New Generation Builds Wealth with Purpose, Passion and Profit. 

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OK, hello Karen Rands here.
I decided to do a segment on

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this compassionate capitalist
show specific to the reasons why

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and the benefits why and the
myths about Angel investing and

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why those myths exist.
If you have been listening to

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this podcast regularly, you're
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minority of people out there
that know and embrace the idea

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of investing in entrepreneurs as
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It is kind of the whole premise
behind what I do within the

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Compassionate Capitalist
movement and the Compassionate

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Capitalist Show and you know my
book and everything like that.

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But if you're new to this,
because I am gaining a lot of

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new listeners these days or
you're one of those business

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owners out there, those
executives that just like these

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business type topics and never
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being somebody that could be an
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That's never really been
something that you were like,

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you know, oh, that's something
that other people do.

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Well, this is the show for you.
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And, and I really hope that you
get great value of it.

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Listen to it all the way
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Give me a comment share it
because we are getting this

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movement for compassionate
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All right, so let's start with
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So I you know ChatGPT all the
rage right?

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Yeah, The reality is that it
doesn't invent anything.

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It isn't smart.
It's just the best crawler for a

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search engine.
It basically knows it goes out

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there to the world of Internet
stuff and pulls the information

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right.
So it's always nice to see if

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like what I think does ChatGPT
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So I asked it what is an Angel
investor and this is the what he

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came back with.
Angel investing refers to the

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practice of investing money and
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businesses typically in exchange
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convertible debt.
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individuals who have accumulated
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are looking for high risk, high,
high reward, high return

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investment opportunities.
Well, you know, the irony of

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that is that they obviously have
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of crowdfunding investing and
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changed.
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much like what you know, the
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don't know about Angel investing
is that it was illegal for 90

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years.
I want to talk about that more

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in just a second, but so JOBS
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That was when they removed 90
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for non millionaires to invest
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companies.
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companies to solicit investment
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2012.
The opportunity for anyone with

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disposable income to invest in
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available.
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It took a few years for it all
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of it, it's like, and I'll talk
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but I want to let that settle
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On one hand, you have 90 years
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right?
Heck, when I was managing, you

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know, the Angel group where I
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know and I talk about now and I
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show that you see it right
behind me, right?

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For those that are watching on
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channel, I, when I was running
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would hold our dinners and pitch
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the venue to be able to close
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I remember this one place here
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we were expanding and we needed
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Their bigger space was in this
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couldn't have our meeting there.
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there, but we had to go into
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So just on an off chance that
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the companies presenting to this
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money because that was illegal.
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founder to go to jail for
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I mean, it, it, it really was
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And so it's just amazing to me,
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But because what were they
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If you, if you've been to my
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heard me tell the story of the
secret society, that's really

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what it was.
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society, a community that would
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entrepreneurs were worthy of
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founder could go on and succeed
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believe would be successful and
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process, right.
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the premise behind all that to
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And so if you've listened to any
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weeks, you will know that I have
also launched the compassionate

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capitalist wealth maximizing
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It's a live hands on training
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interactive that maps to the
book I wrote to serve as a

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primer to provide the pathway
right the inside secrets to

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Angel investing, the lighted
pathway for millions of

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American, maybe even those in
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be an Angel investor.
Of course, that book, Inside

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Secrets into Angel Investing was
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information out there.
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and then now the launch of a
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And with that, they'll be there
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There are DIY.
You could do it at your own

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pace.
Log in at midnight on Saturday,

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on Friday night when you can't
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whatever.
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your own look at your own thing.
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done on a monthly basis.
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based on market demand.
I consider myself sort of in a,

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a beta test mode where we're
putting a lot of this out there,

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seeing what works best for the,
the market of, of really the,

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the, the people that are most
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the folks between 25 and 45 that
are in a growth stage in their

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careers and are wanting to see
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particularly the 25 to 35 year
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They are not afraid of
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reward based crowdfunding.
So they're, they're hungry for

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this information.
So I'm putting it all together

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to get out there and then I have
a, a whole sort of it that's for

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those people that maybe did one
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They've done a couple of Angel
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really never felt comfortable
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it.
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investment in, lost their money
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they want to do it wisely.
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training out there for it.
Now there's hit and miss this,

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that and the other thing that
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that happen within a structured
Angel groups, but there's really

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no structured training for this
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investing, for example, or stock
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So I'm solving that problem if
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No, I'm joking.
All right, so so do you if you

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want to invest in small
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I know it sounds intimidating.
I get it.

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Now that I'm out there really
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system, I get it.
I get the comments from people

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all the time, but it's actually
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build wealth.
Investing in entrepreneurs is an

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asset class that's just as valid
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estate or the stock market.
Scout's honor.

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In fact, owning a piece of
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3 times more profitable than
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times more profitable.
Google it.

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Go ask ChatGPT and they'll tell
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And I found that even successful
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listen to my show, create
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but never think about investing
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I, I, I discovered this when I
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chamber and stuff.
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$1,000,000 businesses and
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estate, in the stocks and never
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entrepreneurs as something for
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It's always something that this
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to burn type of person becomes
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just not the case.
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investors are active Angel
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the process.
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their money and they do it,
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minutes for a whole other
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Yes, make money.
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capitalist side, compassion
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money.
The compassion side is choosing

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to make money in a way that has
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passion that you yourself have.
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All right.
You know, I was naive to think

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that my book was enough when I
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after the JOBS Act got passed.
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been that people would that
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crowdfunding investing and
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And then it it this, you know,
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have, would have even a blacker
eye right than than what has

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been created by the myths.
Because if you think about it,

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for those 90 some odd years from
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Exchange Acts were passed to
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passed, people needed to make
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Money makes money.
And so all the wealth managers

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are financial planners that
couldn't talk about Angel

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investing.
What they talk about, they

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talked about stock market and
people created education systems

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for the stock market.
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the rules or whatever, the
things changed in the 80s for

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real estate.
Prior to the 1980's, the only

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people that had invested in real
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people and institutions.
But then they changed on, you

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couldn't get a loan for
investment properties for a long

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time.
And they changed tax laws to

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allow people that invest in real
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expenses.
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created the whole cottage
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real estate started to happen.
So that that's where I am.

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That's what I'm doing right now.
I am where that real estate

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education investment market was
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We're starting that right now.
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because I'm going to tell you,
I'm going to give you the

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details, the information that
you need to make a decision on

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whether this is something you
want to invest time in learning

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before you even make your first
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Right 'cause I, I wrote this
book, it's got a step by step

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guide.
Every end of each chapter says

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you know what to do next.
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with the tools that, you know,
any investor would need to make

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decisions about investing in
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But I didn't ever do anything
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I didn't know how to, I didn't
know I finally found the right

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person to help me put this
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the benefit of the marketplace.
Because you think about it, 150

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million people invest in the
stock market, 7 million people

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in the United State invest in
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In both cases, that's people
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year or more.
That's not a millionaire, that's

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a middle class person, OK, That
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other asset class thinking they
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wealth and the least risky
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Angel investing and what they
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on the street, word of mouth is
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It is like gambling.
It doesn't have tangible assets

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associated with it.
Oh, you can't get your money

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back.
Oh, all this stuff.

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And I and if we have time, I'll
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things as well.
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intro class very much so right.
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the opportunity that the
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to investors like you and me.
I'm not a millionaire, but I'm a

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millionaire adjacent, right?
You know, they wanted to give us

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the opportunity to invest like
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rich millionaires have been
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That was the secret again, from
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Rockefellers, the Du Pont's, the
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different things that you hear
that you know about the people

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that were creating and building
America back in the industrial

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revolution, right?
Back in those days when they

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passed the security laws that
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right?
You have to be the the public

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market stuff because of the
Great Depression, the stock

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market crash, those folks
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said, hey, we want you to carve
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transactions because we want to
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each other's businesses without
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about it.
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do that for you.
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established the rules that said
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open and the public could hear,
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solicitation.
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venture conferences, they should
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in some ways, but they shouldn't
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I used to have the rule at my
big pitch events where there

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were, I didn't know.
Everybody in the audience was

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not necessarily an investor.
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stage they were raising capital
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private meetings to have those
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So we stayed within the laws of
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You had to have a relationship
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The Angel GroupMe became the
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process, that was the
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But that was really the rules of
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And so in the vacuum, what did
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Invest in gold, invest in
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invest in bonds?
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the crowdfunding space, there's
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is just fascinating.
They issue bonds on behalf of a

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company to the community.
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They have a guaranteed return,
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It's, you know, low.
It's like like a way a bond

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would be in investing in local
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that are having an impact in
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it through bonds.
I thought that was brilliant,

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right?
There's so many ways that you

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can invest in entrepreneurs.
You can be a bank, you can loan

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them a little bit of money,
bridge them, you know, help when

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they're getting ready to do a
big order, the retail order to

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Walmart or something and they
got a go to manufacturing.

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They're you they want to bring
manufacturing into their, a $10

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million company, a guy, you know
that or gal, you know, from the

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chamber and they want to bring
manufacturing into the United

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States from offshore.
They can go get an SBA loan for

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this amount, but they need this
other amount to higher up

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people, you know, do their
marketing for this new product

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they're launching.
You could be an investor in that

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and it could be structured.
I'm gonna, I'm working with a

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company right now on this in a
what they call revenue

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financing.
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percentage of those Rev that
revenue on a monthly, quarterly

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or however it gets structured
basis until three times your

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money is paid back.
And you know that that company

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has the contracts, you know that
that company has the ability to

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make money.
So where's the risk in that?

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Yeah, there's some risk, but not
as much as there is in the stock

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market that you have no control
over and often times in the real

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estate market.
And we're going to talk more

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about that here as I proceed on
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But I, I, I get excited about
this.

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I actually have a whole thing.
It's taken me days to write the

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show notes for what I want to
Tell with you today, back and

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forth, editing it and stuff like
that, and I've already digressed

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3 times off of it.
But anyway, so they wanted to

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give millions of Americans the
opportunity to invest in the

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potential of entrepreneurs and
their growing business, and I'm

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going to tell you exactly why in
just a few minutes.

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The crazy thing to me is what
little actual understanding and

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even basic awareness of the
possibility there is out there

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about the value and benefit of
Angel investing, even if you're

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only able to invest in
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I mean literally.
And I'm going to give you 2

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stories, OK?
I'm going to tell you 2 brief

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stories about conversations I've
had within the last couple of

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weeks that drives this point
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So the goal of the Compassionate
Capitalist Wealth maximizing

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system is to shepherd new
investors to the concept of

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investing in entrepreneurs and
those that have some experience

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at Angel and crowdfunding
investor to get better, to be

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more confident through this.
These steps become comfortable

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and confident with investing in
entrepreneurs as comfortable as

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they are in investing in the
stock market in real estate,

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right?
It should not be elusive A myth

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or anything.
And by the way, if you want to

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sign up for an upcoming intro
class or just get in the queue

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to Start learning more about.
The actual interactive training

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at the Compassion Capital with
maximizing system, they go to

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dothedeal.org. dothedeal.org.
It's also in the show notes.

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But do the deal dot.
All right, I said it three times

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and I will say it again before
the end of this.

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So let me tell you this first
story and I'll tell you the

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reasons why Angel investing is
still a secret and what the

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myths that discourage it are and
why they exist and the reality

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of the benefits of learning how
to invest wisely in

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entrepreneurs.
And you may relate to these

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stories.
So first is a friend.

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She's retired with a good
pension, considering investing

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in real estate, open to the
opportunity.

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I described she'd been watching
some of the stuff I've been

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putting out on Facebook and she
asked me if my friend Jane, she

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asked me when she ran into me at
this meeting, She said, why is

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it that I'm always talking about
investing in entrepreneurs?

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And she wondered how is it
better than investing in the

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stock market in real estate?
My favorite question.

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I explained to her that
investing in entrepreneurs is my

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passion because I love the idea
that somebody sees a problem,

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figures out a solution to that
problem just from the

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imagination they have and
whatever knowledge they have or

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ability to go and find people
that have knowledge and they

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create a solution that solves a
problem that changes our world,

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makes it better that just the
idea, that basic idea makes me

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excited.
I'm just excited about that.

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So hell, and I've seen so many
ideas, so many done deals,

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things that are that would solve
fundamental problems, save lives

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that never get to where they
need to get to make an impact

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because they didn't get the
funding, because there's not

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enough investors out there.
I gave you those numbers, the

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7,000,000 real estate investors.
You know how many investors

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there are in entrepreneurs right
now?

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We're talking 90 years.
So 90 years that it's been a

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secret even with all the the
rise of the dot coms from the

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the 80s into the 90s, you know,
OK into the 2000s when the that

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crashed.
So even all of that car carian

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in an Angel group, about 350,000
Angel investors in the United

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States, there's about 7,000,005
to 7 million accredited

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investors, those people that
technically could be the

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official Angel investor in the
United States, but there's only

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about 350,000 that invest in in
entrepreneurs through Angel

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groups.
So there's some number that's

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not tracked that way.
And then there's some people

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that invest in the Reggae Plus
and these other kinds of

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offerings, but in crowdfunding
in Reg CF OK, which is probably

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the biggest group of
crowdfunding investors in Reg CF

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Red crowdfunding 350,000 in
2022, Is it too good to be

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people that are making that
$75,000 or or more, right, that

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aren't, you know, making
$400,000?

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So somewhere in that gap between
75,000 and 300,000, you know,

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perfect place for crowdfunding
investors 350,000 and it's been

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10 years or are you OK?
So Reg CF was 2015.

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All right, Even that seven or
eight years and there's still

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only 350,000 in that.
And you know, that's just, it's

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like amazing to me.
And I'm going to talk about

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something because you're going
to, I know you got a question

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coming in there and I'm going to
guess your question here, but

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you know, and, and so I told her
that it's my pot, my passion

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because of this, right?
And that I do the take the time

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to produce this podcast every
week to really help

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entrepreneurs and investors
learn about the best practices

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for creating wealth by building
successful entrepreneur

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endeavors and being an investor
in those ideals without all the

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risks.
Because, you know, launching and

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growing and successful business
takes a lot of time and money is

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risky when you are the 1 putting
in all the time and money.

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And I shared with her some
important reasons why investing

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in entrepreneurs is a great idea
and what it means for anyone

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who's interested in building
wealth.

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The first reason, and I said
this before, it's three times

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more profitable than traditional
investments like real estate and

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stock market.
Three times more profitable.

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Hey, why not?
And then the second reason is

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that you're investing in
entrepreneurs is no more risky

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than other forms of investing as
long as you know how to build a

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diversified portfolio.
And I share the statistics,

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right.
So if you Google it right and a

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chat an average turn on
investment of real estate and

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the stocks, they typically they
look at a 10 year rolling span

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and it goes up and down a little
bit.

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But on average they are between
11 and 13%, right.

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It correlate around 11 to 13% of
return on investment.

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And that part of that is because
stocks don't jump, they fall,

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fall hard and fast, but they
only go up incrementally.

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And real estate has a whole lot
of other expenses associated

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with it.
So that your actual return on

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investment is a very small part
of the total number of what that

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that asset might represent.
But the average Angel investment

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portfolio, 30% / 30%, actually,
I think it's like 36%.

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It's a fact, right?
And I know, I know you're saying

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hold up here and hold up here.
And if it's really three times

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00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,560
more profitable, how come I
don't hear about it all the time

431
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,920
like I do, you know, well, want
to learn how to invest in

432
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,800
Bitcoin?
I swear I think I get a message

433
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,360
at least every other every
couple of days from somebody

434
00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:30,720
asking if I want to learn how to
invest in Bitcoin, right?

435
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,920
Or why aren't my friends talking
about getting into crowdfunding

436
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,840
investing like, hey, do you want
a crowdfund?

437
00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:42,800
My daughter even said on an
Instagram thing or whatever or

438
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:47,240
live stream she was doing 1 New
Year's Eve, she says, Hey,

439
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,480
anybody know how to invest in
Bitcoin?

440
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,520
Hit me up right.
Like, you know, I, I great

441
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,680
question.
I Scott had me scratching my

442
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,200
head too, because when the JOBS
Act passing and making it legal

443
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,560
for anyone with cash on hand to
invest in entrepreneurs, I was

444
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,920
literally afraid that millions
of people rushed to start

445
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,680
investing in the entrepreneur.
I mean, I literally was, I was

446
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,240
panicked that this thing that I
felt so much about, because I

447
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,720
felt like the biggest barrier to
entrepreneurs raising capital

448
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,560
was this general solicitations
restriction.

449
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,360
And we had to work around it all
the time.

450
00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:21,360
Because my Angel investor group,
I had 30 or 40 people in a room

451
00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:25,880
at a time here, but I had 100
plus investors out in the US

452
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,920
that had signed up virtually to
be a part of the Angel investor

453
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,240
group and had given me all kinds
of information about the things

454
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,880
they invested in.
And so the way we had to engage

455
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,240
them, that was actually really
the reason why I started the

456
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,680
podcast to begin with, way back
then was to be able to do an

457
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,600
interview with a entrepreneur
that was raising capital without

458
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,880
saying they were raising
capital, but saying, Hey, they

459
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,240
were just at our Angel investor
event.

460
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,120
And, and you know, we would talk
about their business proposition

461
00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:58,080
and their, and what they were,
you know, all the opportunity,

462
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,680
the problem they were solving
all the stuff without talking

463
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,640
about the raising capital.
And then we would create a

464
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,440
trackable link, send it out to
the entire network of my

465
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,440
investors and those that clicked
on it, then we would follow up

466
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,440
and say, Hey, looks like you
were interested on this, right?

467
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,160
And so that was, that was
literally the main reason why we

468
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,160
did it and SEO backlinks, right?
That was the main reason why we

469
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,520
had we had done it to stay
within the rules of this general

470
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,080
solicitation, right.
And so I was just really worried

471
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,920
that this I called it a
redheaded stepchild.

472
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,120
And no, no offense to redheads
of an asset class, but you know,

473
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,160
they that because the biggest
mistake that all that investors

474
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,600
make when they're first getting
started.

475
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:45,760
And I myself had made this same
mistake investing on emotion

476
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,600
invest because you love that
particular entrepreneur

477
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,520
investing on emotion without
going through the paces of

478
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,880
deciding whether this company
was really worthy of your

479
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,680
investment.
And I was, I was on a board call

480
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,320
a day with a company that I'm
working with.

481
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,560
I talked to the board of
directors about, you know, where

482
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,360
they are.
So the difference between like a

483
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,640
friends and family and the
easier money that it takes for

484
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,400
an entrepreneur to raise versus,
you know, going to business

485
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,600
angels is that they're typically
people that believe in the

486
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,120
entrepreneur or believe in what
the entrepreneur is trying to

487
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,440
do.
And they're like, oh, I can't

488
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,000
believe somebody hasn't done
this before.

489
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,600
Got to get, I want to see this
this solution in the

490
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,000
marketplace.
So they'll throw money in based

491
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,640
on emotion.
Business angels don't do that

492
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,080
because they've, you know,
they've, they're, and in that

493
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,400
case, when a company is raising
beyond their seed round, they're

494
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,640
competing against all the other
companies that are raising

495
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,880
capital.
And did I not say there's a

496
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,320
finite amount of capital,
350,000 registered card holder

497
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:46,640
and Angel investors 350,000 that
are invested in Reg CF right.

498
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,000
But there's literally probably a
million companies raising

499
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:55,880
capital, you know?
And so so anyway, I thought they

500
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,800
needed this book.
And I did not want to give any

501
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:04,440
more fodder to the financial
advisors out there that have

502
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,720
been spreading the fear,
uncertainty of doubt about Angel

503
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,880
investing to be able to tell
their clients that went off and

504
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,200
did this, that, you know,
they've been saying it's too

505
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,680
risky, you can't do it.
I told you so.

506
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,880
And, and by the way, the reason
why they, they discourage Angel

507
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,840
investing wasn't because they
thought it was too risky.

508
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:30,200
It's because of the rules of the
SEC set up that required the

509
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,440
only way for them.
They have this thing called

510
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,160
selling away.
And so if they advised a

511
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,680
company, a, a client on
investing in an, in a private

512
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,880
equity transaction because it's
securities, then they couldn't

513
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,200
and it wasn't being run through
their broker dealer.

514
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,160
They, even if they didn't make
money on it, they, they would

515
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,440
fear that they would lose their
license because they'd be

516
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,600
selling away, whereas real
estate is not a security.

517
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,760
So they could say, yeah, take
10% of your portfolio and invest

518
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,560
in real estate.
You should invest in these kind

519
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,760
of things, that kind of stuff,
you know, rather than you know,

520
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,000
And they might even take a look
at it and give them their two

521
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,160
cents worth.
But it wasn't considered selling

522
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,040
away when but there was.
But early stage companies that

523
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:20,240
are raising $1,000,000 is not
something that a Merrill Lynch

524
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,360
is going to take on.
They only take on deals that are

525
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,760
raising $100 million because
they have to make it available

526
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,520
to all of their investors, you
know, when they do a private

527
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,800
equity transaction.
And so that is just the nature

528
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,040
was the nature of the beast and
they brokered dealers have to

529
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,560
charge big fees.
They charge 10 grand retainer a

530
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,200
month plus 12% of the
transaction.

531
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,440
No company raising $1,000,000
could afford that.

532
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,880
So there was just this
disconnect, which again, ergo

533
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,600
why the JOBS Act was necessary.
And I think, and I think it

534
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,480
could be because you know,
everybody talks about Bitcoin.

535
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,720
I mentioned that, right?
And people go like, why I hear

536
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,040
about Bitcoin?
Why not?

537
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,960
Why don't I?
Why don't I hear about Bitcoin

538
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,400
investing and I don't hear about
Angel investing?

539
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,640
Well, it's because it's in the
news all the time, good and bad,

540
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,680
but it's in the news, right?
And you can track its value and

541
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,880
it's wild ride.
It swings just like you can the

542
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,200
stock market.
When I was preparing for this, I

543
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,400
went and looked, what is the
latest price of Bitcoin today?

544
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,080
And I could look at what was the
price for the last year.

545
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,040
I could totally see all the ups
and downs.

546
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,640
You can't do that on Angel
investing because they're

547
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,040
private, right?
So it's something that people

548
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,760
can do.
They can Google it, they can see

549
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,760
it, they can do all that kind of
stuff, right?

550
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,920
And you can get involved for
just, you know, like if y'all

551
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,760
watched Super Bowl, not this
last year, but the, the, the

552
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:55,240
year before when Coinbase did
the ad with the QR code bouncing

553
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,480
on the screen.
This is a Super Bowl ad, right?

554
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,800
And I'm up there and I got it,
the QR code and they gave me

555
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:07,520
$500 credit, I think to be able
to go and invest in, in Bitcoin

556
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,360
infractions.
You could, you could do it for

557
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,640
500.
I, I get like a tiny piece of

558
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,040
one Bitcoin or I could go find
ones that are in the start up

559
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,960
stage of a, of a cryptocurrency
that I might be able to buy for

560
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:23,360
$500, you know, And then there's
these news reports of the

561
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,320
teenager that made 10s of
thousands of dollars in just a

562
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,720
few weeks, right?
I, I, when I was looking at

563
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,480
this, I saw he's got a whole
thing of a whole series of

564
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,760
videos now talking about how he
did it right.

565
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,680
And when you have huge
celebrities promoting crypto

566
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:43,560
like Larry David or Tom Brady or
even Matt Damon during NFL

567
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,840
games, when you have a huge
audience of people that really,

568
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,960
quite frankly, like to gamble
because they're doing fantasy

569
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,200
football, they're, they're able
to do all these things to them,

570
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:59,720
then it is, is ripe audience
because their level of like, oh,

571
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,920
why not this too?
And Matt says it's good, but

572
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,280
just like the guy in that funny
TV ad, I, I couldn't find out

573
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,000
who it was.
I think it's some kind of job,

574
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,280
like a jobs ad for like Indeed
or something like that.

575
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,560
And you know, one day he's
celebrating, oh, he's a crypto

576
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,639
millionaire and he's going to
like resign his job and he's out

577
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:21,199
at the clubs at night with the
big champagne and like that.

578
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:24,120
And then the next day he's back
at work broke because of the

579
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,440
fluctuation of the market.
When Matt Damon did the

580
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:33,360
crypto.com ad in 2021, Bitcoin
was trading at 60,000 about

581
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:39,000
$60,000 apiece.
A year later a Bitcoin.

582
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:46,800
So in 20/22 it was 20,000
dollars. 3770 a year did year to

583
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,719
date on that.
Today is 26,485.

584
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,639
That's I just checked it today.
In fact, in the past year it has

585
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:58,120
not gone above 30,000.
I call that risky.

586
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,320
And the thing that I think about
Bitcoin that people don't really

587
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:08,520
get, I mean, sophisticated
investors, you know, people

588
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,080
that, that have worked on their
financial intelligence, you

589
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,600
know, like if you ever looked at
any Robert Kiyosaki's kind of

590
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,240
stuff, Sharon Lecter, you should
watch my podcast with Sharon

591
00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:21,800
Lecter.
But the cash flow quadrant,

592
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:27,800
EBSI, entrepreneur, service
providers, the sole proprietors,

593
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,680
business owners and investors,
right?

594
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,280
So this side of the equation are
people that have to deal with

595
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,320
money after taxes, taxes are
taken out, right?

596
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,400
And they're, and they're all
about time and money.

597
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,480
Time is exchanged for money,
whereas over here business

598
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,440
owners are building businesses
that operate without them being

599
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,280
there because they have systems
and stuff like that.

600
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,560
So it's like they're making
money in in their sleep.

601
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,560
I was listening to this.
I was talking to a, a friend of

602
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,600
mine today, a lawyer that I was
going to engage.

603
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,200
And he has a side business he
started that is water bottling.

604
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,160
And he has an alkaline water
product that he brought out.

605
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,160
And he said, you know, last
night I sold 10,000 cases in my

606
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,760
sleep because it's out in
Walmart and stuff like that,

607
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,000
right?
That's why business owners, you

608
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,440
know, make the most money.
What business owners are

609
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,400
considered the best way to
create wealth?

610
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,800
But what they don't think about
is the I.

611
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:23,960
The I is the investor putting
your money to work, investing in

612
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,960
things that make money in your
sleep.

613
00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:28,800
So when you invest in a business
owner that's working their tail

614
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,800
off to create wealth for
themselves and their family and

615
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,240
their generation, you make money
too in your sleep, All right?

616
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,120
That's, that's that piece of it,
right?

617
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:45,000
And so when you look at when you
look at crypto, what is it?

618
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,360
It's like day trading.
It's very volatile because

619
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,920
although it is in a transaction
like public stocks, right, you

620
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,320
buy and sell stocks in the
public market from another stock

621
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,200
owner.
In crypto, you're buying and

622
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:05,240
selling from one crypto owner to
a you're the next crypto owner

623
00:37:05,240 --> 00:37:08,760
and and there's a transaction
that goes up until there's a

624
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,680
sell off.
Same thing with the stock market

625
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,600
and there's a sell off.
The stock markets drop.

626
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,360
And sometimes it it can happen
because of very specific reasons

627
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:23,000
like catastrophes like 911, all
your travel and transportation

628
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,960
stocks dropped, all your planes
things dropped.

629
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,160
Everybody got out of that
sector, but it's usually the big

630
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,160
money markets that are moving.
Hedge funds are moving money out

631
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,880
of a sector and stuff like that.
And I have a theory that part of

632
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,120
the reason why you see a
volatility in the stock market,

633
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,320
if you would just track it with
the sorry for those that are

634
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,720
watching.
I keep messing with my hair

635
00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:43,560
because my fans blowing my hair
on my face.

636
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:48,160
The stock market a, you know, if
you, you correlate between a

637
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,160
drop in Bitcoin or dropped in
the ICO markets and the Ethereum

638
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,080
and those kind of stuff.
And you would see correlation of

639
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,560
the big market makers, the big,
big, big market movers moving

640
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:04,120
money out of their stock
holdings to offset their losses

641
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,880
in crypto to keep their
investors whole and the overall

642
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,280
performance of their fund
strong, right?

643
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,560
Just sort of my theory.
You know, the thing about it to

644
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,280
consider with crypto is that
there's no financial performance

645
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,440
of a company to consider or the
assets own or anything that

646
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,720
might give the market makers
reasons to want to buy the stock

647
00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:30,320
and drive the price back up,
right?

648
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:35,360
When it comes to to crypto, what
drives it back up its demand.

649
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,240
But you know, if there's it's,
it's like the ultimate Ponzi

650
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:45,560
scheme and, and World Economic
pressures aside right there.

651
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,680
I believe that there's an inner
relationship.

652
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,480
There's lots of just things that
have like caused the stock

653
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,080
market to drop in different
areas and different sectors.

654
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,440
But it's just, you know, I know
friends of mine that that they

655
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,720
did get in early, so they have
made money.

656
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:03,200
And even with that drop of 60
that they didn't buy at 60, they

657
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,960
bought at 10.
So even at 20, they're still

658
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,560
making money.
But they get up at 2:00 or 3:00

659
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,360
in the morning to make a
transaction because it's not

660
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,280
even a fixed price of the
transaction.

661
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,160
The actual cost of transaction
varies on demand.

662
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,360
So everything about it is
variable.

663
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,080
That's about the pure definition
of risk I could possibly imagine

664
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,600
compared to Angel investing.
And don't get me wrong, my

665
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:32,440
disrespect for crypto does not
apply to blockchain or even

666
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:37,120
NFTS, non fungible tokens.
Because crypto is an application

667
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,440
on blockchain.
Just like smart contracts, the

668
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,160
stuff that do it in real estate,
supply chain management.

669
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,600
Lots and lots of great things
happening on blockchain that

670
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,000
fundamentally is shifting and
advancing business in ways that

671
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,760
we couldn't even imagine before.
And NFTS, they at least have

672
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,720
something of value attached to
it.

673
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,960
And and even if it is art and
it's subjective and you may not

674
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,120
feel like why would I do a why
would I want to get a cartoon of

675
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,480
a monkey?
There's a whole other area that

676
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:14,440
it is, it is tracking where I've
seen opportunities where it's

677
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:21,120
they're using NFTS, non fungible
tokens to track assets of like

678
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,560
when people.
By a limited release of

679
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:29,200
something and they want to prove
that asset of value that it

680
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,840
can't be plagiarized or copied,
they put an NFT on it and so it

681
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:38,320
could be very well-being a
tangible something of value that

682
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,040
has an NFT, not even a digital
market of something.

683
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:47,800
I have a vision that as I build
this virtual network of Angel

684
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,880
investors through this program,
I will be offering and it as

685
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,800
part of a membership in that in
the future.

686
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,880
I've got it all mapped out on
how I'm going to do that.

687
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:01,680
So yeah, I'm, I like NFTS and I
love blockchain, all right, It's

688
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,560
very different than crypto.
So back to my story about Jane.

689
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,960
So I told her about how you make
investments in increments of

690
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,160
hundreds or thousands of dollars
even or, and own a small piece

691
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,640
of multiple businesses, right?
Like this, right?

692
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,040
And then those businesses are
run by passionate entrepreneurs

693
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,920
who are bringing an innovation
to market that use your money to

694
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,240
grow their business.
And eventually they build it to

695
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:31,920
sell the company to a large
company or go public or sell

696
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,160
their stock and sell their stock
on the open market.

697
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,160
And then you get your return on
investment.

698
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,960
But as I mentioned before,
there's all kinds of different

699
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,760
ways.
The thing that I had called the

700
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:46,520
Angel Profitability Blueprint is
designed to help you build a

701
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:51,040
portfolio of 10 companies.
So that will produce different

702
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,240
types of, of returns on
investment.

703
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,120
So have you heard that you can
create great wealth as an

704
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,800
entrepreneur?
And then by default, you must

705
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,280
know that you can create great
wealth as an investor in those

706
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,000
successful on the, on the on in
entrepreneurs.

707
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,720
It it's just a fact.
It's just logic because the

708
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,640
companies that you know of that
you buy their products for all

709
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,760
that kind of stuff, then
currently that's what they do.

710
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,880
They, you know, there were Angel
investors in those companies.

711
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,000
One of the topic objection
objections about Angel investing

712
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,160
is that it's too risky because
the odds of the business

713
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,560
feeling, oh, you know what?
Data from the Bureau of Labor

714
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,840
Statistics show that 20% new
businesses failed during the

715
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,960
first two years of being open,
45% during the first five years

716
00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:43,120
and 65% during the first ten
years, and only 25% of new

717
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,800
businesses make it to 15 years
or more.

718
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:49,960
You know what, In the 20 years
that I have been working with

719
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,520
entrepreneurs over 20 years or
even to my IBM days ready

720
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,640
getting them ready to attract
capital and coach them on how to

721
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,880
raise their seed round, those
stats have not changed.

722
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,120
They have pretty much been the
same statistics, yet

723
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,800
millionaires still invest in
them.

724
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:10,440
They can invest in anything they
want, but they still invest in

725
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,040
entrepreneurs.
And being an investor in a

726
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,600
business is not as risky as
being the founder of that

727
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,920
business.
Yes, you may lose the money, but

728
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,320
you don't lose everything else,
right?

729
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,760
And that's the reason that's and
I would venture to say part of

730
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,800
the reason why those companies
fail after that five years,

731
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,720
stuff like that is because of
lack of access to capital.

732
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:40,120
The very problem that the JOBS
Act was was trying to solve

733
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,600
access to capital, unlocking the
check accounts, the 4K's and the

734
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,680
self-directed Iras of those 7
million potential accredited

735
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,960
investors and the 7 million
people that invest in real

736
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,920
estate and the 150 million
people that invest in the stock

737
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,360
market.
Because they could all be

738
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,840
investing in entrepreneurs if
they knew they could and if they

739
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,920
knew how.
All right, Yep, that's right.

740
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:13,440
So it's the Angel profitability
blueprint is my, my element of

741
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,120
success on this.
And I'm actually going to offer

742
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,520
it up as a, a, a free download,
something that's available just

743
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,480
for free for those people that
sign up for the intro classes,

744
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,960
because I think it's important.
It's an important take away.

745
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:32,320
So it's designed to give you a
short term returns that you get

746
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,360
money back in the few months,
you know, within a year, as well

747
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,440
as income producing returns,
just like rental investment

748
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:44,760
property and long term big wins
like your traditional IPO or, or

749
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,480
if you were investing in real
estate for a long haul, or you

750
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,880
thought you were investing in a
Blue Chicks chip stock.

751
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,600
And we're just going to keep it
in your portfolio.

752
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:56,920
My dad gave my daughter when she
was born a very little about 10

753
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:01,200
thousand $20,000 worth of stocks
in blue chip companies, UPS,

754
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:08,760
Coca-Cola and maybe it was just
those two and and Delta, well

755
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:13,320
Delta got hammered in with 911
and UPS something else,

756
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,760
Coca-Cola something else.
Anyway, those, the stocks went

757
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:21,840
up and down, but they did not
retain their value that of what

758
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,760
he gave them.
They were never back.

759
00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:26,880
They, they did not get back to
that value.

760
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,520
You know, maybe now 25 years
later, they are and they're more

761
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,120
than that because they go and do
stuff.

762
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,040
But it just, you know, it's
really quite amazing that, you

763
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,120
know, you think that, but that's
it.

764
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,400
It the stock market is just as
you don't lose your money if you

765
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,120
don't sell.
So you just hold on to it.

766
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,360
But it it takes a while And
I'll, I'll talk some more about

767
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,120
that, too.
So my friend said she had been

768
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,720
planning on investing in real
estate, but the market has just

769
00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:52,960
risen.
The prices have been rising.

770
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,800
The mortgage rates are higher
than she expected for the

771
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,920
investment property.
Yeah, they're about two points

772
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,600
higher than what they are for
real estate.

773
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,000
I mean, for, for private, your
own personal home.

774
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,000
And, you know, there are other
benefits to investing in

775
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,200
entrepreneurs.
It just seems so risky because

776
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,440
there isn't anything tangible
like a house associated with it.

777
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,880
And that's where you, you, once
you understand the structure,

778
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,160
once you understand things, you
understand that you can make

779
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,480
those decisions and you can see
the value.

780
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,960
It is in what the company is
doing, the product that they're

781
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,680
building, their intellectual
property that's protecting the

782
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,360
that property, that product from
competition.

783
00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:34,880
Those are the assets, right?
It is what they're building.

784
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,920
The company itself becomes the
asset.

785
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,040
And yes, I said it, I get it.
This is the same boat a lot of

786
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,080
people are in.
And here's the thing, one of the

787
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,360
reasons why the JOB Act was
passed bipartisan in Congress

788
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:50,080
2012 was because if you recall,
the financial collapse of the

789
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,200
mortgage-backed securities real
estate bubble had crashed in

790
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,000
2000 and nine 2010 time frame.
I doubt much of the real estate

791
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,280
holdings of the investors plus
the received equity value of

792
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,720
their primary residence.
You see, what makes real estate

793
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,120
investment risky and expensive
is that investors, most of those

794
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:13,360
7 million with the income of
$75,000 or more, are not buying

795
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,000
real estate.
They're taking out a loan with a

796
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:23,360
bank and they are a, A sure they
are a, they're a person that

797
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,400
could own that, but they own it
with the bank until the bank's

798
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,840
loan is paid off.
And, and anybody that owns real

799
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,840
estate knows that.
So you got to make enough money

800
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:38,720
on your your rental to cover
that mortgage plus the repairs

801
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:43,360
when the the floor is flooded
because a pipe busted during the

802
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:49,000
crazy frozen time we had in
December or the septic tank is

803
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,720
full.
And now you got to pay 3 1/2,

804
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:56,080
three, $3500 to have somebody
come in and pump that out.

805
00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:01,280
Those things come out of pocket.
And if you're only making $500

806
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,040
profit on that particular
because of your mortgage on in

807
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,720
that particular property, well,
guess what?

808
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,240
You just ate up how many months
of income paying for whatever

809
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:14,840
that is.
So you know, you're it, it, it's

810
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,880
just the nature of it.
Or if you don't have the

811
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,240
insurance that covers it or it's
not something that's covered by

812
00:48:19,240 --> 00:48:21,560
insurance, you have to come out
of pocket.

813
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,400
And so that is what when your
tenant moves out and you got to

814
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,800
fix it up, put new pet carpets
in there and paint it so you can

815
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,800
put it, you can charge more and
get another tenant in there.

816
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,960
You got 3-4 months where you're
making no income and just

817
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,640
spending money.
So those are things that don't

818
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,240
factor in when they talk about
how real estate.

819
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:45,080
But that is that's factored in
when the world of of return on

820
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,960
investment says on average, real
estate portfolios produce a 10

821
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:53,000
or 11% return on investment
because it's not just an asset

822
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,000
that's $350,000 that you own
outright.

823
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,800
You own it with the bank and you
had to put 50 grand down in

824
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,040
order to buy it right or to fix
it up.

825
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,680
So if you are sitting on So what
that means to you If you have

826
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,600
10s of thousands of dollars
saved up because you were going

827
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,040
to buy another piece of rental
property or get started

828
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,400
investing in real estate.
The rising cost of real estate

829
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,720
is shut you out of owning that
rental property.

830
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,040
Investing in entrepreneurs might
be a great option for you.

831
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,680
That 30,000 you saved up for
your first or second real estate

832
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:30,560
property, you could invest in
10/15/20 crowdfunding and

833
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,800
companies with that truly make a
diverse portfolio and do other

834
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,240
things like what I've been
talking about.

835
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,560
I even told Jane about how to
unlock the capital in her four O

836
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,800
1K so that she could direct her
four O 1 K through a

837
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:48,160
self-directed IRA or Roth IRA to
invest in entrepreneurs instead

838
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,720
of those low yield mutual funds
or the volatile stock market

839
00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:54,520
that you might have when you,
you know, say, oh, I'm going to

840
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,960
put 50% in the stock market and
50% in this, you know, mutual

841
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,920
fund, right?
Speaking of the stock market, my

842
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,440
other friend, the the other one
I'm telling you about now, my

843
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,200
friend Bob, he's a well paid
employee with a substantial

844
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,120
stock market portfolio, very
proud of his stock market.

845
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,680
In fact, it drives a whole lot
of his decisions on everything

846
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,040
else in his life is what will
make my stock portfolio go up.

847
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,560
It's how he votes, right?
I actually, and he actually had

848
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:30,200
purchased my book when I first
came out and read it and even

849
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,200
shared it with many of his
friends.

850
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:34,600
Yeah.
When we were together recently,

851
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:39,080
he said he asked me why invest
in private company versus public

852
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,520
companies.
I had to, like, keep my poker

853
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,840
face on because I was just
stunned that he was out.

854
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:49,280
He read my book, and here he was
asking that question.

855
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,120
And I share with him the
fundamental difference.

856
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:57,280
When you buy a public stock,
again, you buy it from another

857
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,840
stock investor, not the company.
It is a transaction between two

858
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,160
people or the institution that's
selling it, like a hedge fund

859
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,360
that's selling that stock.
The only benefit to the company

860
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,880
when their stock goes up is that
they can leverage that for

861
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,200
acquisition or debt financing,
right?

862
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,360
They can leverage that and it's,
it's, it's, you know,

863
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,440
shareholder value is a, is a big
deal when it comes to their

864
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,840
financial strength of their, of
their portfolio of what they

865
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:31,280
have, right?
And so, but the biggest

866
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,280
challenge start-ups, small
business owners have getting the

867
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,040
capital they need to start and
grow their business before cash

868
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,200
flow and profits sufficient to
fool the growth on their own.

869
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,000
Angel investors, crowdfunding
investors, community investor.

870
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,520
That's kind of a new thing
that's happening.

871
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,840
Investing in the companies in
your community invest, invest in

872
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:54,080
that sweet spot spot between an
ID and bankable or if this in in

873
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,600
the programs that are expanding
business.

874
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,440
I kind of talked about that like
you're investing your, your,

875
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,280
your fellow friends business,
right?

876
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,800
Like through the Interstate
exemption or Reg A+.

877
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,640
It is the capital a company
needs that exceeds what they can

878
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,760
get from a bank.
That money comes for those

879
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,200
private investment funds and the
jobs will be created, The

880
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,720
products will be invented to
solve a problem in the

881
00:52:19,720 --> 00:52:23,720
marketplace and expands the the
economy because of the ripple

882
00:52:23,720 --> 00:52:27,120
effect it has for those
investors that grow into what I

883
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,120
call business angels.
People in the business of

884
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,480
investing in entrepreneurs as a
regular part of their life.

885
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,640
It's like a hobby that they,
they work on getting better and

886
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,440
better at with each investment
decision, right?

887
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,360
It's something that they become
interested in.

888
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:43,760
They want to learn about it.
They want to do it.

889
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,080
So like if you wanted to learn
how to become a skier, you don't

890
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,400
just jump out and start skiing.
You take a training course, you

891
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,160
practice and then you go down
the, the big, big black

892
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,400
diamonds, right?
You don't just do that to start

893
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:57,800
with.
Just because you can doesn't

894
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,000
mean you should without the
proper training.

895
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,240
That's why I'm, I'm doing what
I'm doing right now, right?

896
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,360
So they do it because they also
do it.

897
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,560
Angel investors also do it
because of these feelings of

898
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,880
contribution, the impact their
that their money has when their

899
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,920
money goes into a company that's
solving a problem that they're,

900
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,960
they care about, that they're
passionate about.

901
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,640
It could be something that's
that's in their own life.

902
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,200
It could be a problem that they
wish they had a solution for.

903
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,640
It could be, you know, I see it
all the time, you know, and if

904
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,360
I, when I was running my Angel
group, we would have companies

905
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,120
that the people would say, oh,
I'm a soft software investor.

906
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,520
But then somebody would come in
and they would have, there's

907
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,000
this company that they would
have a solution where it was a

908
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,440
pill dispenser that could be
connected through Internet or

909
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,320
things for home health.
And you would know whether your

910
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,760
mom was taking her medications
even though you weren't there.

911
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,640
And the nurse could check in on
her, you know, through a

912
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,320
telecall, you know, to be able
to check on her.

913
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,760
And because their mom was, you
know, in that situation, they

914
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,280
would be like, I want to invest
in that, right?

915
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,840
So that was the emotion.
They were passionate about a

916
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,800
problem that was being solved
that they hadn't really thought

917
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,200
about.
And and that's that

918
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,520
compassionate capitalist part of
it, right?

919
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,400
And so and they get this, this
sense of satisfaction watching

920
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,760
these companies grow, watching
their money being put to work

921
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,000
for a company to get to a whole
nother stage of business.

922
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,520
It actually Angel investing,
investing actually satisfies the

923
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,120
six fundamental human hierarchy
of needs.

924
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,920
And I did a whole series of
videos on what that is and why

925
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,560
those is.
And they're, they're part of the

926
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,120
now part of the maximizing
system.

927
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,920
And you could still go to
YouTube and find them.

928
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,040
If you go find this on YouTube,
you go to the compassionate

929
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,600
capitalist channel, they're
listed there's, but you don't

930
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,280
get those feelings in the stock
market.

931
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,600
You're just buying and selling.
It's a transaction.

932
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,640
I mean, you, you get feelings
of, Oh, my money's going up and

933
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,440
your money's increasing in
value, but there's no other

934
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,600
sense of, of reward and
fulfillment in that.

935
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,120
And you don't get that when
you're buying real estate for a

936
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,440
rental company.
Maybe in a flip because you saw,

937
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,840
you know, this ugly house turned
beautiful, right?

938
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,680
And that's a sense of like, oh,
it's done.

939
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,120
But it's really more like it's
done.

940
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,640
It's like, it's a thank God it's
done and now I can make money on

941
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,960
it.
It's not because you're watching

942
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,600
something grow, right?
And it's not that you're solving

943
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,360
a problem that affects millions
of people or changes the world

944
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,440
because a whole new market has
been created.

945
00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:28,320
Many people think of investing
in entrepreneurs as too risky,

946
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,360
but it again, it's no more risky
than real estate or the stock

947
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,640
market when you know how to
build a diversified portfolio.

948
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,840
I mentioned about the real
estate crash and this at the

949
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,760
same time the stock market crash
and tumbled.

950
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:45,760
It took 10 years for those
values of where they were just

951
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:50,520
to get back to the spot they
were when it crashed. 10 years,

952
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,280
really 10 years when you looked
at the, the, the market in

953
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:55,560
general.
Now, obviously there's

954
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,360
exceptions and in certain
markets here, but it and by and

955
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,760
large it was, it took them ten
years.

956
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,560
And and so technically you don't
lose your money if you don't

957
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,840
sell.
But this idea that Angel

958
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,080
investing is illiquid because
you might have to hold it for 10

959
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,800
years.
Well, I just showed you there

960
00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:16,880
that you know you if you lose
the value in your stock market,

961
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,160
in your real estate, if you're
able to continue to make the

962
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,440
payments on that real estate,
you will have to hold it 10

963
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,400
years to get it back.
At least that's what it took.

964
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,560
OK, now we have a surge, another
bubble that we're in the middle

965
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:32,160
of because of of a whole nother
reason why you talk about that.

966
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,720
But the key difference in both
those cases is that the factors

967
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,840
for the real estate in the stock
market collapse were outside of

968
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,720
your control.
The value is set by the buying

969
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:45,960
and selling like crypto, it
takes time and demand demand to

970
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,040
regain that value.
Where with startups and grow

971
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,720
states, companies, the money
that you along with hundreds of

972
00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:55,680
others, maybe thousands of other
investors are going directly

973
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,120
into growing the value of that
company, bringing out products,

974
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,200
new products that will grow the
revenue, increase the value of

975
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:06,240
the company.
And that's not not because of a

976
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:10,320
transaction, but because they're
building something of value.

977
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,120
It's the company.
Remember, investing in

978
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,440
entrepreneurs has a long history
of success among the wealthiest

979
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,800
investors in the world,
including the DuPont,

980
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,760
Rockefellers.
Nearly every company that is

981
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,240
public now or household name had
Angel investors.

982
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,440
And at some point, Home Depot,
Amazon, Microsoft, Facebook,

983
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:33,440
Dell, the JOBS Act not only
intended to Open Access to

984
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:37,480
capital for entrepreneurs, but
also for those investors that

985
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,680
had lost that retirement and
their real estate and the stock

986
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,840
crash.
They've lost their real estate.

987
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,320
The industry lobby Congress to
change the laws.

988
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:50,160
And they did because they saw
the rewards, the results of

989
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,120
reward based crowdfunding.
Think about it.

990
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,000
You didn't know that you don't
know this I talk about in the

991
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,160
book.
If you haven't read my book, if

992
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,240
you haven't heard me talk about
this because you don't have a

993
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:06,120
follower of me on stuff, but 3D
printing, drone VR headsets,

994
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,480
even fidget widgets, I'm holding
one for those that are watching

995
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,000
right.
Even fidget widgets all came to

996
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,160
market because of reward based
crowdfunding.

997
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:21,200
That was what was around for 20
years before we had equity based

998
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,080
crowdfunding.
Literally 20 years.

999
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,360
OK, that's how a lot of films
music got done.

1000
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,880
Reward based, right?
I got early access to something,

1001
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:35,440
I get a reward, I get something
in exchange for my money, right.

1002
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,520
So they pre purchased these
products even before in some

1003
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,240
cases they hadn't even been
made.

1004
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,680
They were they they you didn't
even know for certain.

1005
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,600
They I have a prototype.
They knew it worked, but they

1006
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,320
hadn't made any kind of a lot of
them, right?

1007
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,560
And so they would put hundreds
or even thousands of dollars

1008
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,440
into these companies and these
companies raised millions of

1009
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,640
dollars in reward based
crowdfunding.

1010
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:00,520
And then they went on to raise
VC money and sell their company

1011
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:05,280
or like Oculus headset, right?
They got first got 100 million

1012
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,200
or something from VCs and and
Facebook and then Facebook

1013
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:09,760
bought them for billions of
dollars.

1014
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,360
You know, the reward, the people
that had bought those original

1015
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:18,480
versions of those Oculus
headsets made nothing on that.

1016
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:23,520
They gave them the seed capital,
you know, hoping to get a

1017
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,360
product, right?
And those companies got

1018
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,480
launched, but they made no money
on that.

1019
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,960
And it wouldn't, it wouldn't be
like you, you would have made 50

1020
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:37,680
grand on $1000 investment, but
you might have made 5K, right?

1021
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,880
You at least would have had
something different.

1022
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,040
You might have had the product
and equity.

1023
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:44,560
That's the way a lot of them are
doing it now.

1024
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,560
So Congress said, why not let
the middle class get to invest

1025
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,880
like the ultra high net worth
people and start to bridge this

1026
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,200
wealth gap.
This is particularly keen for

1027
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:59,160
women and people of color that
have not have long, long, long,

1028
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,040
long, long time not had a seat
at the table.

1029
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:06,240
Pull up a chair.
I say pull up a chair.

1030
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,800
And get and Start learning about
how to invest in this asset

1031
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,880
class.
And when that company goes

1032
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:18,080
public, excuse me, even even in
the.com bomb, right or so we

1033
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:22,280
need real, real tell investors
jump into the market on jump on

1034
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,040
a stock.
We saw this with Facebook, we

1035
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:29,720
saw it big time with Snapchat.
And so say the the strike price

1036
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:34,320
is at $15 a share and it rises
to $20, you know, and it's going

1037
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,160
up and up and up and then all of
a sudden it starts to fall and

1038
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,440
it goes down to $10 or something
in a matter of weeks.

1039
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,400
After the initial IPO.
The people that invested when

1040
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:47,040
that company was starting up and
growing, those people that put

1041
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,400
that money at risk but saw the
future potential of what that

1042
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,160
company was going to do and the
impact it was going to have and

1043
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:54,720
the revenue it was going to
generate.

1044
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,520
And then they put that money in
and they might have started out

1045
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,200
at $0.50 a share or a dollar a
share.

1046
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:08,080
OK, when, when that company IP
owed at $15 and then they sold

1047
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:12,040
the stock at $20, they've made
20 times their investment.

1048
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,360
But those got people that got in
at $15 a share and thought, oh,

1049
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,240
yeah, yeah, it's going to go.
And then just a couple of weeks

1050
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:26,160
later it drops to 10.
They've already lost $5 a share.

1051
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,880
All right, everybody like, so by
the time you hear about it to

1052
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,200
buy it in the stock market, it's
too late to make money on it.

1053
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:37,040
I mean, you could, you will make
money on it, but still there's a

1054
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,400
way for Angel investors, some of
these Angel investors, there's

1055
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:43,880
organizations that you can buy
stock in a company like 23,

1056
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,760
23andMe, Airbnb, all these
companies that are getting ready

1057
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,080
to go public.
You can go and buy stock in

1058
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:51,560
those companies.
Now you have to be accredited to

1059
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:55,280
do it, but you can buy stock in
those companies and you won't

1060
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,560
get them because you're buying
them from employees that have

1061
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,800
that have the stock right now.
So you're not going to get it at

1062
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,120
a dollar a share if their strike
price is going to be $15 a

1063
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,240
share.
You might get it for $8 a share

1064
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:10,200
or $10 a share, but you'll still
be able to sell it when it first

1065
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,240
goes public and you got it and
you still have a basis point

1066
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:17,120
that's a lot lower than you know
what people that buy it after it

1067
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,520
goes public.
And not every company is going

1068
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,480
to do that, right?
But but it is why you have a

1069
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:26,240
strategy for diversifying based
on state industry and type of

1070
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:30,480
offering that I call the Angel
profitability blueprint.

1071
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,960
Ioffer it in this wealth
maximizer system.

1072
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,440
All right, so I want to
encourage you.

1073
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,080
I I thank you for listening for
as long as I've been talking.

1074
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,520
I was going to get into
furthermore into risks.

1075
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,800
I guess you'll just have to sign
up to learn more about how I

1076
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:52,480
overcome risk or, or please to
go and follow me at go follow me

1077
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:56,560
on Facebook and on LinkedIn and
stuff like that because I do put

1078
01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:00,520
out videos on these topics.
But go to dothedeal.org,

1079
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:04,800
dothedeal.org and you can sign
up for a free intro class.

1080
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:09,280
You'll get in, you'll get a free
book called the 12 secrets of

1081
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,920
innovation and wealth on that
will be given to you as well as

1082
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,120
part of that.
And you'll get, you'll start to

1083
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:20,640
get my video tips that I talk a
lot about this stuff and I you

1084
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,080
know, you'll get, you'll learn,
you'll do the first step that

1085
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,000
says this something that you
want to invest more time in

1086
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:31,560
learning and do you want to
invest money into, like getting

1087
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:35,560
into a more in depth training.
You know, you'll learn how to

1088
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,680
make investments in increments
of hundreds or thousands of

1089
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,240
dollars.
You'll learn how to use the

1090
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:44,440
Angel profitability Blueprint to
find deals, evaluate them, and

1091
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,160
build a profitable portfolio of
at least 10 investments.

1092
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:51,960
You get started on the path to
learn the inside secrets to

1093
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,400
Angel investing.
And you'll be able to invest in

1094
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,440
businesses where passionate
entrepreneurs are bringing

1095
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,640
innovation in the market.
And you share their passion and

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you have the feeling of impact
and contribution.

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Just I, I see it when I've had
with some of my Angel investors

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and some of the things they'd
walk in the room and they'd have

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a pep in their stuff because I
could, I, I decided for those 45

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year olds that were becoming my
Angel investors at the time, it

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was like, better than a midlife
crisis, you know what I mean?

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They could go spend 100 grand on
a fancy new car, sports car, or

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they could invest in
entrepreneurs and they got a

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greater sense of joy.
You didn't need to go have an

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affair to bring it, you know,
spice back into your life.

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Go invest in something you're
passionate about, a problem

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you're solving somebody.
So there's somebody out there

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trying to solve a problem that
you think needs to be solved.

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I promise you there is.
OK, So again, dothedeal.org in

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order, this is the right kind of
a thing for you.

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Don't and join this growing
community of compassionate

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capitalism.
With that, I'll say onwards and

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upwards.
Thank you so very much for

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tuning in and listening and
please share this very much.

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If there's ever a podcast to
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would be it.
So Kieran signing off, onwards

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and upwards.
Have a great day.

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